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aphrodite

Gosh - interesting facts! I did not know the top bloggers only got a few hundred visitors a day. Silly me!

Ronan

"As for it being the longest article ever, maybe Mr. McGuinness could reduce his article to a series of maybe 5 or 6 short paragraphs. And perhaps illustrate each with a cute image and publish them on a website. And maybe some links to his friends as well would be nice. Oh, hang on ..."


it's 5600 words. I'm amazed it got published anywhere but a blog!

brevity is clarity, this is one of the central tenets of the mainstream media even more than blogs, despite what you seem to think.

you'd swear if he made the piece 10000 words it'd be even more intellectual regardless of what it said.

fuck it why not go the whole hog and write 20000 words, then there'd be even more information in there, and an even better piece!

Jay Lyden

Ronan you are right, brevity is clarity - Im only poking fun at the comment about the length. I dont think its a long article. And theres very little redundancy in there, he's an economical enough writer who happens to be making a lot of points. Slightly related, an interesting article about brevity and clarity as applied to the literary canon, from a crowd famed for their long articles.... http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/22/071022fa_fact_gopnik
ironically its an abstract, you can get the full version in the print edition.
i suppose articles feel longer when they are backlit on high contrast screens. sure thats another rant.

John

Surely the key difference between blog and printed articles is that the printed ones are edited, thus go through some kind of review process?

This provides a fair basis for the contention that printed articles are of higher quality.

Granted, more and more printed articles show signs of little or no editorial review, most notably in the spelling and grammar.

Justin Mason

I quite liked the article -- some serious comprehension failures in the comments here! A few comments of my own:

'Though there are probably thousands of Irish blogs, only a handful manage to attract more than a few hundred readers a day and none manage to make any money out of it.'

First off, for what it's worth, there are just under a thousand Irish blogs, by my reckoning: http://taint.org/technorati/full.html

Secondly, quite a few make money out of it; my AdSense account demonstrates this nicely. The MSM fails to fact-check, yet again! ;)

I was discussing the Irish newspaper industry's blog-phobia with some mates recently. We concluded that it's a byproduct of their status as a specialist, secondary news source.

The older generation, and offline country folk, are now the primary readership for Irish broadsheets (I'm ignoring tabloids here). Most of the people who would be comfortable with reading online news -- young, middle-class, urban users -- now tend to read the English papers, either online, or on paper, as their primary news source.

Of course, this may be partly *because* the Irish papers haven't bothered their arses getting their stuff online in a useful way.

JL Pagano

Have you ever been standing at a bus stop in the pouring rain for over an hour, then when it finally arrives someone strolls out of their house as dry as a bone to get on it same as you? You'd be pretty annoyed at their fortune compared to yours, but in reality they have just as much right to get on it as you do.

This is where the MSM's aggressive stance towards bloggers comes from in my opinion. And in many ways, it's understandable. Journalists have trained and worked as subordinates to get to a position where their opinion is actively sought, then some guy with a laptop and a broadband connection gets himself thousands of hits per day and eventually a book deal.

This is not a debate about who is more entitled to air their views - it's about professional jealousy, and I think it's about time spades were called spades.

claire

I think there's still room for some public feedback and interaction between print media and those who are not salaried journalists.-and this comes from Blogs. For example , will Max not read these comments for the benefit of his own writing? If even just to criticize us?

The people who write blogs could be experts in one particular area, into which they can provide more insight than someone who isn't , say, a lawyer, or engineer, or banker etc. Blogs are now feeding a much more complex media in that journalists have access to the opinions of the slightly more intelligent than the average reader. Vitriol of Waters and Max aside; the bloggers are not COMPLETE idiots.

It's true -everyone in the world can't be a journalist, therefore only the best should get paid for it. But you can be sure that those guys still read the blogs to get more insight.

susan

blogging can be interesting and can also tell you more about someone than they are prepared to reveal in person.

Catherine Wilson

I think blogging is great fun and there is a demand for it by the public and great for niche news content. Blogs struggle as you say however to match the gravitas of a newspaper or have the checks and balances that a newspaper has the resources to provide. A happy medium is to be hoped for if newspapers sales and print ad sales continue to decline.

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